BR-52
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3 14 December 2016, 09:54
Wesley De BraekeleirYou put a lot of effort in the resurch! great job! Looking forward of the rest of the build! 🙂
14 December 2016, 18:12
ISA Models АвторCheers guys, thx, My buold blog with historical information and all background data can be found here: militarymodelling.co..140&p=32#PostTop (I cant post as much here, I think)
14 December 2016, 20:48
RobbieWOW... I was wondering if it is worth the effort or just dump the kit and build the whole thing from scratch. It looks like there is going to be not much left of the original kit. You do have the persistence. This is coming from a guy that has a few old Kitmaker locomotive kits in his stash.
14 December 2016, 22:43
ISA Models АвторWell, scratching all would be better, at least that is what I will do with the next one. I am still practicing and figuring out stuff. Trains are just awesome. It was amazing walking around and on top of it at Sinsheim. Thanks again to the museum.
15 December 2016, 06:32
Lex JassiesBeing a train enthousiat myself (1/87 American H0n3 steam) I really love to see this kind of scrath-building. You have still a long way to go, so succes, and will follow this one.
15 December 2016, 09:03
Wim van der LuijtVery cool build, well worth spending one of your 13,5 lives on Käpt'n 😉
15 December 2016, 09:10
ISA Models АвторThanks guys! Quite a few train builders here. Well, research is tough. And more pops up on a daily basis. I have already written many pages on the railroad sytsem development between the wars and need to finish it at some point. I will make it available to the BR52 builders and the public once finished. I am also working on a step by step system to modify/get rid of the worst mistakes of the kit for future modellers, in case the kit will be tackled by anyone in the future^^. I wish I had done even more research before I began, as i had to rip off stuff and change already built things many times over, and even threw a basball at the tender and smashed it in rage^^ (I managed to fix it though)^^
15 December 2016, 09:36
ISA Models АвторI redesigned the whole fire box, tore the old one out and am drilling the 40 holes for the flues (the big smoke pipes running through the long boiler). Any idea of how to create about 1600 bolts easily? is there row PE or something?
15 December 2016, 22:01
Angel YovtshevI recommend you MasterClub's resin bolts-depending on size you will need between 8 and 16 packs.They cost around 2,15 EUR per pack in Russia(I ordered last weekend).
15 December 2016, 22:41
ISA Models АвторThanks big time man! I will have a look into this, but I think they got them with pins only (Ideally I would like heads only 😄) cleaning/cutting this many will be such a bummer^^
15 December 2016, 23:08
Lex JassiesBlaubar; you could take a look at the site from Meng Models. They have bolt heads and rivet heads on plastic plates (no hassle with cyaan) in different sizes. They are relatively cheap. Maybe this is something you gould use. I think I ordered some items via Domino (België). The Sockel shop (DE.) Has them also.
16 December 2016, 07:37
ISA Models АвторThx Lex. Will compare the two meng and MC. Sockelshop is always the best service available^^.
16 December 2016, 09:36
Angel YovtshevThx also from me, Lex! Checked last evening Meng nuts&bolts and already put some on my to-order list 🙂Blaubar- if you will consider MC, you can send me an e-mail(mine is in Contacts) and I will send you my Excel with full data about MC items.They carry quite wide range and it's easy to end ordering something, that will not fit into intended use(I stashed half of my first order for that reason).
17 December 2016, 08:16
Archibaldd HaddockLove it! 😄 Keep the wonderfull modelling work! Steam up mate
17 December 2016, 13:13
ISA Models АвторFull steam ahead mate next week! also looking fwd to your 86. Have you got enough photos? Else I could go inside the one in Sinsheim and make an appointment.
17 December 2016, 19:15
Archibaldd HaddockMate you are awsome! I do have the WWP T002 Dampflok BR 86. But I will chat with you about any further details... meanwhile your modelling is outstandig! Love it mate, love it
17 December 2016, 21:24
ISA Models АвторYour avatar is the best. XD. Sure, shoot me an email. I sent u my address.
18 December 2016, 07:29
ISA Models АвторAdded some more photos of the fire box reconstruction and more adjustments due to kit mistakes and flaws.
21 December 2016, 21:35
ISA Models АвторSome more paint and a few little fixes applied to the tender while the engine frame received some more rivets. Slow progress...
4 January 2017, 18:42
ISA Models АвторThe frame has been cut, the front thrown into the trash bin and new parts were designed. Too many faults and inaccurate parts had to be fixed.
12 March 2017, 10:58
Bart Goesaertthat's becoming a true work of art and love... very nice conversion, and to bad that that so much surgery is needed...
3 April 2017, 09:13
ISA Models АвторYeah, it is really annoying. No review ever mentioned just how inaccurate this kit is, and so are most of the AM PE parts^^. (Imagine a Tiger hull with no hull floor... people would go crazy...)
3 April 2017, 09:35
ISA Models АвторMarc, there will be much more white stuff in the near future, as most parts from now on are neglected by the kit.
3 April 2017, 21:27
Archibaldd HaddockEvery time it gets better and better... outstanding! Didn't forget those images... 😄
4 April 2017, 11:05
Alec KI am guessing that the 1:72 scale HobbyBoss kit is equally off. I am not a train guy, but wonder if there were significant productifon variations that could explain the Trumpeter version? Or did they just guess their way through the design process?
18 November 2017, 14:54
ISA Models АвторAlec, no clue about the 1/72 one as I don't own it, but from what I have seen, yes, same issues. They mixed plate and bar frame design features, added tons of post-war stuff and also the overall frame is wrong either way. (Bar and plate frame are two different steam engine frame types, only approx 300 52s had the bar, whereas some 6000+ had the plate frame). They just copied post war engines I assume... and they were modified so vastly....that many have nothing in common with an original 52. i got a huge flickr album with all the research and the kit faults and flaws. For the k4t30 tender they must have used a Turkish modified one amongst others as a model... they are the only tenders to have the way too wide rear box that trumpeter added afaik. The model as it is in the box, was under no circumstances any of the different versions produced. (Still, it is a nice OOB steam locomotive, but no 52) <- though that is rivet counting^^
18 November 2017, 20:52
Alec KThanks for the explanation, much appreciated. Is there a wartime BR-52 in existence?
19 November 2017, 12:44
TreehuggerLooks like a fun project. 🙂
Edit: Ah, maybe there is some issue with it. Well, heh, locomotives does look like fun to me.
18 December 2018, 13:31
ISA Models АвторYeah, a bit^^. It took ages cutting and redesigning the frame and the interior. It's fun though. Happy holidays to you, too! 🙂
19 December 2018, 10:27
Bart Goesaerthappy holidays too, where did the original kit go to? a true labor of love... and a superb project...
19 December 2018, 12:10
ISA Models АвторThe kit evaporated ????. It turns out it is no BR52 at all and useless for a depiction^^
29 December 2018, 14:57
ISA Models Автор1:35 progress following later. Currently working on bar and plate frame 1:16 versions
14 October 2020, 06:10
Rui SI think this is a interesting vídeo. Hope you will like it if you don't know it.
Youtube Video
20 November 2020, 22:32
Album info
A vast modification and scratch building project to recreate a real BR 52 and nothing ficticious as the Trumpeter kit. During the course of this project and many museum, archive and expert visits, I have acqiured a vast amount of information, showing just how bad the kit is.
The build includes interior, including smoke and fire boxes, cabin interiors, new tender interior, modified tender coal bunker, a new frame for the tender, as the kit one is simply wrong and bad.
