WIP - Sopwith Camel
Comments
79 1 December 2021, 20:27

Welcome to the show mates!
But I have to admit that there won't be as many scratch parts as in the last project.
2 December 2021, 14:48

New pictures. Need to wait now for drying, then mask again and paint the outer parts of the wing late PC10 (this is a special British green mixture).
2 December 2021, 14:56

... and perhaps for Bughunter this is a kinda leisure build 😉
4 December 2021, 15:00

Welcome and thank you for your interest! 👍
Ok, regarding oob - I plan to include some of the Eduard accessories. But ...
Now I realized, that the struts (0.7mm) and the undercarriage (0,6mm) are very flexible! 🙁 It is may be strong enough to put it from the bench to the cabinet but I have (strong) doubts about transport to exhibitions. And nothing is more frustrating than transport damage to a finished model (I've known this since a broken landing gear on my Nieuport 11). Let's see ...
6 December 2021, 16:27

Sometimes I get the feeling that I can't trust my eyes. Great accuracy & detail.
Not only the chairs are looking great 😉
👍
7 December 2021, 20:37

Hast Ameisen eingestellt, die dir die Sitze geflochten haben wa? 🙂 genialer Effekt! Wie ist es gemacht? 3D?
7 December 2021, 20:41

Yes, see comment below pic 11 and project inventory. This is 648659 of the new "Brassin Print" line. The parts are directly printed in black resin. Sopwith Camel seat (Eduard 648659, 1:48)
The Camel kit and it's accessories are impressive!
7 December 2021, 22:16

Bughunter's next build will feature seats woven from real dwarf rattan 🙂
9 December 2021, 17:16

Welcome to the Camel build Ben!
I started to work on the fuselage, but I'm still waiting for my Löök set! The parcel was one month in the Europe post offices, because it was misrouted to UK. They noted this and send it back to Germany. But if something coming from UK is reaches the customs office in Germany at first. And finally after a month it was sent back to sender because tax declaration is missing. 🙁 Of course there was no declaration for a packet within Europe! So brain dead. The hotlines are useless too, because they cannot clear a situation like this.
9 December 2021, 17:28

Thank you mates fro comments and likes!
Nice to see you again Björn!
11 December 2021, 15:39

I knew you wouldn't be able to do an OOB build Frank, and it's all the better for the Bughunter touch.
12 December 2021, 15:03

Thx and also a warm welcome to the new guests!
Pierre, you are following Modellversium? Then you may be know already my style of modeling 😉
gorby, to use PE sets and available add-ons are oob for me 😉 So I added only some wires here.
12 December 2021, 16:42

Thx! With the help of the wonderful drawings in the Windsock Datafile and high res pics of a flying Camel in New Zealand I added all those fuel line on the left side. Now I understand this system. Before anyone asks: Of course it's fully functional 😉
13 December 2021, 17:08

I'm afraid I'd get in trouble with the head of the household because of the smell.
13 December 2021, 18:24

amazing details on all those fuel pumps, levers and so on... fantastic.
14 December 2021, 00:50

Thank you very much mates!
The hump that gave the Camel its name covers the rear part of the Vickers MGs, the front part is on top. Yes, there are also nice Vickers from Gaspatch, but the split ones from Eduard makes painting easier. Unfortunately, the barrel is not so nicely open at the front.
One of the next tasks is to try the new Eduard decals. Never made that experience! I do not like the heavy carrier film and will try to remove it.
14 December 2021, 16:37

Wow! After trying the new decal style on a lower surface I decided to peel - looks fantastic 👍 Thank you Eduard!
15 December 2021, 07:43

To peel or not to peel, that is the question! I decided to peel 😉 The result is fantastic 👍
One should decide before apply the decals: If you want to peel I would left the huge carrier as handle. If you don't want to peel I would cut out the decals right to the edge.
16 December 2021, 16:19

Thank you mates!
@James: sorry, have not noticed you post, because I was already editing my post. Need to ask Tim about this.
@Lochsa River regarding the inspiration, I found a new motto:
Build each model in such a way that the previous one becomes envious. 😉
16 December 2021, 18:32

Some remarks: The new style decals are in all kits since a year or so. Eduard never states in the manuals or so about the possibility to peel, because the fear to be responsible for problems (see Editorial of Info 4/21), but there was a HowTo and comparison in Eduard-Info 5/21 from page 52, which I strictly followed.
Another advantage is a easy weathering after carrier is removed.
I wonder, that no one mentioned this here, or may be I have not noticed. Some people seems to hate this new style. There are videos on YT doing strange things on them, don't try to follow that way!
16 December 2021, 20:12

I now actually recall reading about that in the Eduard newsletter. Glad you showed us how. It certainly looks painted on your model 👍
17 December 2021, 00:41

Great progress,as always a lot of your own improvеments and thats wonderful. I build exactly the same Camel at the moment .
17 December 2021, 06:30

I own also resin wheels, but I used the kit provided ones as they look closer to the original pic on this specific Camel.
Due to the drying times it took a while with that many steps!
17 December 2021, 15:07

Your attention to detail is phenomenal.
I hope you had an excellent Christmas Frank, and that your new year is a damn sight better than the rubbish ones we've been having recently.
4 January 2022, 08:42

Thank you gorby for your continued support 👍 And also for you and your family and allthe other mates here a happy and successful 2022!
I hope to finish more models in the new year as in the last one. 2021 only 4 models are finished, but the Mirage kit and 3 resin models costs more effort and time.
4 January 2022, 15:53

Welcome Urban! Just added some pictures of the fuselage front which is glued into the front now.
4 January 2022, 18:52

Those details in the cockpit O_O It's really astonishing. I will follow along
4 January 2022, 20:34

Looks amazing? I'm curious, what is that wide white and red fabric bit draped across the seat? I think it was in one of your Eduard sets. Is it a signal flag or something?
4 January 2022, 21:37

That is no flag, it is the seat belt 😉
The Sopwith do not use 4 belts as the Germans (shoulder and pelvis) but only a wider pelvis belt, but with 3 securing pins. I used here the Eduard Steel belt as provided with the seat, see also picture 19 of this album.
Sopwith Camel seat (Eduard 648659, 1:48)
Another option would be the HGW belts made from some kind of fabric. I used it on my Sopwith Dolphin, see here and the next picture:
WIP - Sopwith 5F.1 Dolphin | Album by bughunter (1:48)
4 January 2022, 21:54

Thanks! I'm not familiar with WWI planes so that was interesting!
5 January 2022, 13:19

I hope you all, Mates, have noticed or rememeber that Bughunter described this build as "mostly OOB" 😉... How should I call my builds, as up to now I considered them as mostly OOB... 😭
5 January 2022, 14:56

"Mostly OOB" - Bughunter is slightly comparable to when David Damek (PLASMO) says that he'll do some minor scratch building...
5 January 2022, 18:47

Mates, you made my day! OOB includes all the aftermarket sets 😉
Today I got a belated Christmas present from my wife - Rudi Rednose's sledge was stuck in a traffic jam. See picture 62.
5 January 2022, 20:36

This time again my special method - improvement due to an accident! A big update with many pictures and a lot of work!
That picture was somehow my template: [img1]?format=1000w
10 January 2022, 20:03

Good decision to change the push rods. This makes all the difference. Now this engine is a real gem.
11 January 2022, 07:12

I do agree with Alec K here! Maybe you will consider displaying the engine separately next to the finished kit, Bughunter?
11 January 2022, 16:45

Thank you very much mates!
This engine will be mounted definitely in this Camel! The good thing is, that the cowling is wide open and shows a lot. Even the back side is visible from below due to the cutout in cowling and recess in the fuselage.
But I have a second printed Bentley in my stash. Not sure about the marking of the second Camel of this kit, so which of the 4 engine types is needed? This follows much later.
Alec and Robert, I really think about a row of engines to show alone or next to the plane, presented like this Benz Bz.IV: Benz Bz.IV | Album by bughunter (1:48)
I have all of the Small Stuff tyes in my stash 😉
11 January 2022, 18:05

After multiple cycles of masking and painting the project has made a little step progress.
13 January 2022, 18:36

Thank you David!
I mentioned above the flexible landing gear legs and Christoph replied "Show us some brass." So we know, who is responsible.
I need to mention it: there are more the one variant of a Camel undercarriage, a check of references is needed! For my Camel I found wonderful reference pictures:
[img1]
[img2]
That was a lot of work, but now it is very robust. And now it is more compatible to the other Sopwith, since also my Pub, Dolphin and Triplane are equipped with brass undercarriages.
A cleanup and more work on the axles is needed now.
18 January 2022, 19:09

bughunter, again a build log giving inspiration and motivation to try out new techniques. Question: how do you fashion the main struts? Do you squeeze round brass profiles into oval shape or round square ones, or any other technique?
19 January 2022, 08:39

Thank you mates!
Michael, the legs are squeezed micro brass tubing (available in many model shops from Albion Alloys from 0.3 to 2.0mm in 0.1mm steps).
I'm now applying the next batch of decals ...
19 January 2022, 18:56

Once again I'm totally flattened by what you are able to create with wood, metal and a soldering iron, very inspiring 👍.
Love the blue and white livery !
20 January 2022, 19:24

Hanno, just as flattened as my Albion Alloy brass tubes? 😄 😄 😄 Sorry, the pun was obvious!
Thanks Hanno, yes that blue and white looks great. Unfortunately the masking was not perfect, that would have looked even better. I also had a matching light blue from Drooling Bulldog, but I didn't think of that at the beginning.
Maybe you can see the beast live soon?
20 January 2022, 20:43

The decal on the fuselage are done, in multiple session to avoid a overlap.
The possibility to peel the carrier off is great, especially for stencils and holes (like the fuel caps here).
21 January 2022, 18:17

Of course I would appreciate seeing this gem live,
do you plan on attending an exhibition ?
21 January 2022, 20:04

I have never visited the exhibition in Lingen, but despite the long journey, there are things you should do at least once in your life.
But I fear that it will fall victim to the virus this year too?
22 January 2022, 12:29

It most probably will, I'm afraid......... I took part there once and I must say that the dimension of it was really impressive. But generally I'm somewhat uneasy with exhibitions, and like you mentioned - it is quite a distance, from where I live as well, so I never repeated it.
22 January 2022, 12:46

Today nothing scratched, just an out-of-the-box build!
I will mount the pump on the undercarriage leg later, because I am afraid of damaging it while handling the model.
That is a nice piece of accessory (impressive use of 3D printing), which allows more then one pump. The detail is by far better than what is included in the WNW kit, despite the smaller scale.
22 January 2022, 16:21

Further amazing progress. I am surprised how easy you seem to be able to peel off the decals carrier film. I really had difficulties with this. Do you see a difference whether you apply the decals onto a gloss paint or a flat one? I found it easier to start the peel if I cut the thin edges of the decal. You experiences would be appreciated.
22 January 2022, 18:22

Thank you mates!
Michael, I followed strictly the recommendation in Eduard Info journal May 2021.
Applied on glossy clear coat, used water and added blue cap Gunze Setter as recommend. Decals pressed down and all water removed with Qtip. Peeled of the film after 10h and was surprised how easy this was. It was easier on the decals near a corner, here I could grab the carrier with little tweezers. On a plain surface I put a wooden tooth stick to a corner until it lifts up a bit and then removed it with tweezers carefully.
22 January 2022, 18:41

Thank you my friends!
Ok, if you like that picture so much: 125 is now the actual teaser 😉
23 January 2022, 15:56

I've given up trying to express my feelings about Bugsy's projects… I'll just continue to stand in silent awe and will notify you if anything changes…
24 January 2022, 07:03

Greg, good to know that you found this build in this flood of great models 👍
To avoid making this look too easy, I will show a failed attempt soon.
24 January 2022, 16:03

From someone else? I can provide you with many examples from my project list... 😉
24 January 2022, 17:56

it is a bit surprising the fuel system isn't actually functional, isn't it, Greg 🙂
25 January 2022, 00:00

You are so wonderful mates!
The strut mounts failed, but the inspection windows for the aileron pulleys are done.
25 January 2022, 20:51

Deine extrem saubere Arbeit lässt mich immer wieder staunen. Gerade jetzt, wo ich gestern erst wieder was versaubeutelt habe...
26 January 2022, 07:57

Thank you mates!
I think I can post new pics soon as it is a biplane now 😉
26 January 2022, 14:12

Now it is a biplane 👍 I really like the look of this Camel!
But there is still a lot of work on the ToDo list ...
26 January 2022, 17:27

Donnerwetter, what a fine work. By the way: how did this german phrase find it´s way onto this british plane? Do you have an idea?
26 January 2022, 17:30

The Clayton built B7190 was flown by Walter George Raymond Hinchliffe. He was commander of the C Flight of the 10👎 squadron RNAS in February/March 1918. He had been credited with 6 victories, survived the war but lost one eye in a crash. I continued to fly (with the one eye) for civil airlines until 1928. He was lost during a flight across the Atlantic.
The background of the german "Donner-Wetter" is not known, but it matches the devils and thunder flashes on the wheel markings.
26 January 2022, 17:46

Picture 107: true rubber band. You attention to detail and original materials is unbelievable!!!! Picture 137: the terminals look great.
26 January 2022, 19:52

Thank you mates!
The amount of details depends on the available references, and here I have a set of fantastic high resolution pictures of a flying Camel. That helps a lot!
And regarding the terminals: yes, we live in "Golden Times", so many nice accessories are available now. Not long ago I had to made my own ones for the Bristol Fighter, and now there are better ones which are even easier to work with 👍
At the moment I'm working on the remaining rigging, now with double wires and more ...
27 January 2022, 16:59

You don't think that incitement is without consequences?!?!
Now the most crazy part I have ever done!
28 January 2022, 17:22

I am just speechless now... I wouldn't even dare to ask about your remaining superpowers, bughunter 😉
28 January 2022, 17:27

I had to check to see that you hadn't swapped your usual scale for 1/8th for this build.
Astounding!
28 January 2022, 17:35

Thank you very much mates!
@gorby I have the 1/8 Dr.I on the roof of my living room, but this here is really the new Eduard Camel, I swear!
@Pepe yes, a nice model, but I think the master piece are still the DH2 Stripdown and Bristol Fighter. Most closely to the original is still the Aviatik 30.40, hard to beat.
But yes, it is fun to learn with every model and try to get better! Cheers, Frank
28 January 2022, 21:20

so colorful and perfect looking once again Frank..
This is your playgound mate wow!!!!!!!!👍
28 January 2022, 21:24

Jo Daniel, damit Du was zum Bestaunen auf dem Nachbartisch hast - wenn es denn mal wieder geht!
28 January 2022, 21:56

I just love watching mates going the extra mile. Very nice progress once again. That rigging turned out really beautifully but my favorite part is still the engine.
28 January 2022, 22:29

Thank you Michael! I must admit that the extra mile is only possible with good references. As you may know I'm also active in the forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com and there is also a member James Fahey, who has released some fantastic set of pictures. Here his high resolution pictures of the Camel: jamesfahey.smugmug.com/Hi-Res-Camel/ But this is a later Camel, e.g. the undercarriage is different and it has a Clerget engine.
29 January 2022, 12:51

This is so amazing. Ich würde mir beim Versuch die Seile anzubringen die Finger brechen.
29 January 2022, 21:19

Now the tail with a lot of control wiring and rigging is done! The ailerons will be the last step, as I won't be able to put the Camel on its back so easily.
There is a light at the end of the tunnel, or is it an oncoming train?
1 February 2022, 18:29

I'm absolutely certain it's not Victor Charlie with a lantern…… 😄
The tailplane looks superb with all the control cables installed !
Do you know what the story is behind the „Donnerwetter" being written on the fuselage ?
Not the most british term I would say ?
1 February 2022, 19:07

Hanno, see my answer from 26. January, there I wrote all my knowledge about the pilot.
Now I know more about the squadron, the A-Flight has black stripes, the B red ones and the C blue. Eduard released today a new Profipack of Clerget Camels, which has the B6299 of the B-Flight as possible marking (the one of my T-Shirt shown above)
[img1]
This time the red stripes are decals!
1 February 2022, 19:28

There is one important part missing, but otherwise I can call this Camel finished.
2 February 2022, 17:38

Let me guess - a pilot is missing here? 😄 Looking absolutely fabulous (even without propeller in place...;) )
2 February 2022, 18:21

Beautiful work. The blue and white on the upper surfaces is really eye catching.
3 February 2022, 04:34

I can't see the Quirl...🤔
Another Model in Bughunter-museum-style.
3 February 2022, 18:28

Mensch Kerl, langsam gehen mir die Superlativen aus: waschechter Hammer, Meisterwerk, Juwel, klasse-Arbeit, Supermodel... alles hatten wir schon mehrmals!!!
...
...
...
Modellbauerisches-Kunstwerk in Museumsqualität. So! Das hatten wir noch nicht🙂 genau!!
3 February 2022, 18:38

Thank you mates!
Sorry Robert, I'm not going to clutter up the cockpit with a little fat pilot so that you can't see any of the beautiful details in it 😉
And Robert and Christoph: yes, the airscrew is the mentioned missing important part. That will be again something special and my first paint job failed. Finally I removed the paints completely and start from fresh, so that will need more time.
Danke auch Bernhard für Deinen sprachlichen Jongleursakt 👍
3 February 2022, 21:07

Einfach Spitzenklasse! Wie man sieht kann man immer noch was drauf setzen! Respekt!
4 February 2022, 08:23

And not to forget: OOB! (Just in case you thought otherwise for a moment) 😉
4 February 2022, 10:22

Bughunter - a little fat pilot? I expect to see a teletubby in your next build!
4 February 2022, 14:52

Thank you mates!
Ben, that bird was active long before TV was invented, so also no teletubby 😉
That build log reached its end, as the airscrew is finished and mounted with PE parts to the Camel. Once I have made the final pictures I will create a new album, attached to the project.
Thx for watching 👍
4 February 2022, 16:45

With a little luck I was able to use some sunshine today to take the final pictures. Don't miss them: SCM Newsfeed
4 February 2022, 19:17
Album info
Since I got this kit as a gift from my colleagues, this must now be the next project.
This seems to be a great kit so it will be mostly oob 😉