North American P-51 Mustang 137322, "Mah Sweet Eva Lee" in North Africa

Rando 著者
Next build is an early Allison-engine Mustang, a plane and kit which I was always kind of interested in for some reason. 137322 is a plane many have built before, but I'm doing my own (masochistic?) twist on it by adding an old resin engine that it happened to come with. Glad I invested in a nice Polish razor saw.

John
Great start Rando and yep, those JLC saws are a must when wrestling with resin bits.

Rando 著者
Thanks John! It really does a great job, I was wondering how the hell I would detach that ring from that sheet in particular. Yeah part of why I'm building this one now is I want to get comfortable working with resin parts for future Crusader and Voodoo conversions. I also want to make it into a simple diorama, or "vignette"

John
My only (slight) gripe with them is the lack of cutting depth but then the blade would be way too prone to break. Still, just work around the outside edges and parts like that ring and it's do-able. Oh and you probably already know but those saws are fantastic at repairing panel lines from sanding damage.

Rando 著者
Is there something out there that's of similar quality but cuts deeper? And I'll definitely remember that they're good for panel lines too, thanks 👍

Villiers de Vos
Promises to be a head turner.

John E
Following!

Desert Marlin
Okay, that looks like work! Great start!

Rando 著者
It's been a pleasant ride so far honestly, a chunk of the engine wall shot off as I was sawing but I found it in my paint brush cup. One of the challenges ahead that I'm thinking about is how to paint the engine appropriately, not seeing a ton of information of painting inline engines, Allison or otherwise. Thanks Villiers, John, and Marlin for joining in!

Desert Marlin
Mostly black, grey and silver. Ducting for the super charger and oil is as you might expect. Rocker covers tend to be semi-gloss black. Block can be black or grey depending…

Rando 著者
So I've mostly painted the interior, this morning I added the darker interior green to the tailwheel well. Also tried painting the instrument panel by hand instead of a decal this time, and I really like how my first attempt worked out. Have to give credit to KyMustang for his work as inspiration, as he's working on the same model right now! I'll post more pics of the instrument panel after putting gloss on the dials. Also thanks Marlin for the color info on the engine!

KyMustang
This is looking really good. Excited to see your work on the engine…I have that same engine set and plan to install it in a CBI theater Mustang.

Desert Marlin
AM strikes again!

Rando 著者
Thanks buddy! Gonna be interesting building that engine for sure. I did get the goofy banana wings glued together 🤪 is this an AM thing Marlin? I know this thing is probably 30 years old. One thing I'm really not enjoying is the instructions, they explain the hell out of the build in text but the diagrams are awful for exact placement. Like I don't know exactly where to put the radio yet

KyMustang
Sounds like we're in the same boat! I have the radio racks painted but haven't figured out where to put the smaller one. And no YT videos I've found show where it goes.

My wings were not bent at all—they went together quite nicely actually. My four other AM kits also look nice and straight. Must be an issue with your kit.

Rando 著者
You know what it probably is, I read that if old kits aren't kept out of hot temperatures they can get warped like this. Mine looks like it's in pretty beat up condition on the box, I did manage to clamp them together, but I didn't glue the part molded for the cannons, since they're a little warped too so I'll do them separately.

For the smaller radio part, I want to say it goes above and behind the smaller one? Gonna have to do more test fitting

KyMustang
I think you're right. That's my current theory.

Desert Marlin
The kits tend to have that kind of issue. A buddy of mine in the 1980's has this P-51 kit (A-36?) that had a pretty poor fit. Back in the day…

KyMustang
These AM kits are newer than that…original mold in '94. AM's fit is usually pretty good!

Rui
Picture 9 in your album…
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😁

KyMustang
Rando did you try the drybrushing technique we talked about on the panel? Looks great.

Guy Rump
Looking good, following. 👍

Rando 著者
@Rui my thoughts exactly, could see Dave Mustaine playing one of those engine bearers 🤘
And yes I did Ky, I dry brushed with some enamel chrome and steadily applied white to the dials with the long bristle sides of a fine brush. Just put the gloss over the dials. Glad you like it, definitely helped seeing how you did it 😊
Welcome Guy always good to have you!

Rando 著者
Probably not accurate at all since it's hard to find any reference photos for early P-51s, but I scratchbuilt some seatbelts.

KyMustang
They look convincing to me. Will the canopy be open?

Rando 著者
Yeah I think it'll add to the look of the build I'm going for, I imagine it will require carefully cutting the transparency off where the canopy would open

KyMustang
Yep. You're more brave than me. I'm not doing that on this build, but I have the Falcon vacu-form canopy set for the CBI kit.

Rando 著者
Yeah I'll start looking over the transparencies tonight maybe, after I get the wings glued on. The fuselage is together, I put some shims in between the wheel well and upper wing surface to get the fit just right. Also glued the resin engine wall in. What color should I paint it??? Interior green?

KyMustang
So the short answer is zinc chromate, which could vary between what we call yellow or green zinc chromate.

The long answer is that you can kind of justify anything you want. Stan Spooner, when he built the same kit and engine for the Osprey book "Modeling the P-51 Mustang," painted it "green" zinc chromate. Looking at my color photo books is inconclusive. They seem to be darker? But Chuck Cravens, in his book about the meticulous Aircorps Aviation restoration of Sierra Sue II, describes the decision-making alongside pictures and it's definitely "yellow" zinc chromate. From what I've read about the interior colors, that makes the most sense if you're going by the book. Interior structures were primed in the yellow, and your guitar-shaped engine mounts should certainly be the yellow color. But the real answer is it varied by factory, and what they had on hand.

I'd share pictures but I can't put them in a comment. Send me a message if you're interested.

KyMustang
FWIW, and to further complicate things, "yellow" zinc chromatic, "green" zinc chromatic, and "interior green" (sometimes called North American green) are three different colors. Then the D-models add a fourth…a color NAA called "bronze" but is actually a dark green like Republic used throughout the P-47 cockpit. Usually the seat and armor were that color because the supplier used it.

And btw, my build has the wrong interior color but I didn't want to spend the $$. lol.

Rando 著者
Gotcha Ky, yeah this kind of goes along with an article I read recently on the subject for US WWII interior colors. It's probably not going to be accurate to the actual plane but basically as long as I know it's supposed to be some kind of "interior zinc chromate green/yellow-ish" I'll go with that for the wall and bearers. I made the cockpit a darker shade of green than the wheel well, probably because I had seen a lot of yellowish mustang wheel wells and figured I'd split the difference. Guess what matters in the end is I have fun and it looks good to my liking 😊

Desert Marlin
Check out the pictures of this one, in particular the cockpit...

nationalmuseum.af.mi..rican-a-36a-mustang/

Rando 著者
Love those pics Marlin! Guess my interior green is a bit darker than that one. Early P-51s sure are underrated, good looking planes.

Assembly of the main body is complete. Attached the horizontal stabs and radiator intake. Also glued together the gun barrel casings, as they were too complicated to line up when attaching the wing halves. Just have to mask off the cockpit and tailwheel and it's time for primer…and building the engine!

KyMustang
Looking really good!

Very much agreed on the Allison Mustangs—the prettiest variants by far IMO.

Rando 著者
Thanks Ky, started painting the engine parts. Decided X-66 light grey would be a decent approximation for the grey color to start.

Rando 著者
Painting the engine is really going now. Big adventure in masking off the cylinder heads(?) to paint them semi-gloss black. With some metallic detail painting this engine will be really coming to life

KyMustang
Looking great!

Desert Marlin
Looks great! I'm gonna chase your's in the 1:32 scale kit...

Rando 著者
Thanks gents! I am more or less done with painting the Allison engine. I just painted the engine wall interior green, then masked off the oil tank and rim of the wall to paint them flat aluminum. About ready to start painting the plane itself now.

John
Nice engine, I hope it fits!

KyMustang
That engine came out very well!

Desert Marlin
Allison versus Rolls Royce... They do look different!

Rando 著者
Been working on the transparencies. The kit came with some E-Z vinyl masks but they don't fit at all. Not a fan of those after my experience with them building my Crusader, so I made my own from Tamiya tape and liquid mask. Also cut apart the canopy since I intend to display it open

Desert Marlin
Transparent Scotch tape is still my best for masking windows.

KyMustang
Looking good Rando. Were the sprues holding your windscreen attached on the outer surface itself? Mine were, and I'm now in the middle of trying to sand, buff, and polish them out. Very frustrating.

Rando 著者
Ugh, YES! I really tried my best but they won't fully go away. Really a deficiency to note for this kit. On one side I kinda buffed too thin, but the sprue mark is mostly gone. I hope they're not total eyesores when it's done.

Marlin I haven't tried transparent scotch tape but that might actually be great, there's a lot of corners and would probably be easier to see through to mark or cut the masks. Thanks as always!

John
That razor saw is the best 👍

Rando 著者
Marlin tried the scotch tape on the inside of the windows, worked really great for cutting right along the window lines. Doing the same for the outside. Time to start painting!

Desert Marlin
Awesome!

Desert Marlin
Awesome!!!

Rando 著者
Plane is painted. I decided to paint the wing stripes instead of using the decals, and tried to match the decal yellow best I could. My yellow turned out a little dark but I'll take it. Time for gloss and decals next?!

Desert Marlin
Noice...

Rando 著者
The Verlinden resin nose cap that's supposed to replace the kit's doesn't actually fit well with the propeller hub, which would look oversized. So I hacked away the kit nose and will use it instead. The engine won't fit with the kit nose as is, so I will have to shave off some detail from the front of the engine that wouldn't be visible anyway.

Rando 著者
This build is really coming along now, really productive week getting all the plane and all its fiddly components painted, including the guns which I drilled out and painted last night. Now time to start putting it all together.

Villiers de Vos
Very nice progress.

Rando 著者
Thank you Villiers! The engine is now attached. Most of the work left is detail painting, weathering, and building a desert base

Villiers de Vos
The chipping looks good.

KyMustang
That chipping is excellent.

Rando 著者
Thanks gents just flecks of aluminum enamel! First time trying chipping

Desert Marlin
Excellent work on the engine compartment!!!

Rando 著者
Thanks Marlin! Landing gear are on and did some exhaust streaking. Had to kind of figure it out on the fly but I like how it looks for the first time trying it

Rodrigo Navarro Díaz
Following, I'm after that resin kit for my RAF MKIA

Rando 著者
Awesome great to have you Rodrigo! Overall I feel it's a good detail set. Definitely do plenty of test fitting especially with the engine wall and how the engine and engine bearers assemble with the wall. Also, I found the nose cap does not look flush with the prop spinner, so you may consider cutting and using part of the kit nose instead. It's resin so you'll have to wrestle with it but I'm happy with the look.

Rodrigo Navarro Díaz
I'm taking notes about that , thanks!
I also love to detail aircraft kits so Im enjoying seeing this project of yours.

Rando 著者
I'm humbled to hear your praise, you have some truly impressive work in your photo albums! I'm sure you'll do amazing things with the engine.

Rando 著者
And she's done! Nice project and only took me a month and a half.

John E
What a beauty! Nice work.

Desert Marlin
Now that looks cool 😎!!!

Rodrigo Navarro Díaz
Fantastic, great motivation....now I want to start mine!
Congrats.

KyMustang
You should be very proud of that one! Looks fantastic!

Rando 著者
Thank you John, Marlin, Rodrigo & Ky for following along, and thanks everyone for the likes! Was very fun putting this one together

bughunter
Great work 👍

Guy Rump
Great result, congrats! 👍

Rando 著者
Thank you Bughunter and Guy!!

Desert Marlin
Aye!

Rando 著者
How's your Mustang coming along Marlin? I was worried you'd beat me to the finish line 😉

Desert Marlin
I might have! However, I suffered a bit of an interruption. My wife suffered a brain aneurysm on Oahu resulting in me spending the last two, almost three weeks in the hospital with her as she recovers! We are blessed that she was able to recover almost completely! She still has some temporary weakness in her right arm, but all is well this evening!!! Hope to fly home in the next few days!

Rando 著者
Blessed indeed!! So glad to hear she's ok after such a scare.

KyMustang
Wow Marlin. Thankful she recovered so well! God is good.

Desert Marlin
Thank you gentlemen! A scare indeed! Hope to be back on the mainland soon!

Pietro De Angelis
Fantastic job and beautiful Mustang, good luck to Mrs. Marlin!